Update2: Uncle Jimbo weighs in (via h/a)
The ABC report drops it from heinous to just ignorant. My main beef is that such a silly sounding story made it to the debate as Obama’s main point about the military. It was slanted and not an accurate portrayal, thus emphasizing his weakness for the CinC role.
Update: Jake Tapper says the story “Checks out”
From last night’s debate in Austin:
BHO:
“I heard from a Army captain, who was the head of a rifle platoon, supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24, because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq. And as a consequence, they didn’t have enough ammunition; they didn’t have enough humvees.
They were actually capturing Taliban weapons because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief. Now that’s a consequence of bad judgment, and you know, the question is on the critical issues that we face right now who’s going to show the judgment to lead.”
This doesn’t pass the smell test with me on several levels.
First, if there were any truth to this, the media would not have hesitated to use it to bash George Bush. It would have been all over the news.
Second, some of my military readers might want to weigh in here, but, how common is it for an Army Captain to be a Platoon leader? Captains don’t lead platoons, they lead Companies.
Third, how does a under-equipped, under-supplied, half-strength platoon capture munitions, weapons and supplies from the enemy? You mean the Taliban is just handing them over?
BHO is not only revealing himself to be a plagiarist and a demagogue, but a liar as well.
UPDATE: more at NRO
the Obama military anecdote was absolute rubbish on so many levels. First, on his understanding of the military: Captains don’t command platoons, Second, we don’t split platoons between Iraq and Afghanistan, not even companies, battalions, or brigades. Sometimes divisions but by then you’re talking about a 12-15,000 man organization so splits make sense. Done it since WWI at that level and even below. The idea that one of the lowest level organizations in the army (a 40 person platoon) is split between a war with 40,000 troops in it and another war with 120,000 is beyond silly. If Clinton knew better herself, she could have slammed him for knowing nothing about the military, but she’s not in much better shape there herself.
As for the substance, absolute crap. Lots of things happen in a complex theater like Afghanistan but I don’t know anybody who has heard anything even close to that story in 6.5 years military involvement there.
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This is the same military wizard that made this comment:
Source.
For B-Ho’s edification, if he knew anything at all about the military, the way you get out of a war is called VICTORY!
Turkey launches ground ops in Iraq
Link
Hunh.
Even my Kurdish friends who are not associated with the PKK are sympathetic with them. Turkey is taking advantage of the IA while they are deeply involved with restoring security to the rest of Iraq. The area that the PKK operates in is very remote, but the sovereignty issue is creating unnecessary tension. If the Kurdish authorities would do more to control the PKK this wouldn’t happen, but they won’t. The animosity with Turkey, and the way they have treated Kurds since the Ottoman Empire collapsed, is enormous.
Well, I’m sure Zerobama has some hope he can share with the Kurds
He’s the greatest hope for all of mankind, didn’t you get the memo?
/just in case…sarc
I’m from Mississippi. I got the memo, but I can’t read it.
/just waiting for that pantsload of change to fix everything wrong in the universe
I think that pantsload of B-HO’s is already present.
if there were any truth to this, the media would not have hesitated to use it to bash George Bush…no doubt about that Nukester!..ty for the link! 🙂
From the comment section at Flopping Aces.
Link
“But then, I am an Army officer who, like a VAST, near total majority of us, supports the war so my opinion is unwanted by the left.”
If a “vast majority of us” supports the war then how come Ron Paul and Barack Obama received more campaign contributions from the military than any other candidate? I’m pretty sure that they are both all for pulling out of Iraq as soon as possible. Don’t believe what one guy from the Army says. The numbers and statistics speak the truth.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3601542&page=1
Not the point clyde. But just to make you happy, read what others have said.
Pentagon Refutes Obama
I guess we’ll see how many of the military votes the dems try to suppress this election cycle. If it is as you say, then we will see a record turnout.
never underestimate the power of a good “rollicking”
Amazing story….
Good find on that Flopping Aces comment, Robert D.
So Clyde says we should believe an ABC story, but not the word of an actual Army officer? Oh, man…LOL!
Typical Kool Aid drinker…..
Daaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg!
Dude just won a new Cadillac XLR convertible on his Price Is Right showcase, and since he won his bid by less than one thousand dollars, he won both showcases, and one million dollars.
/dang
So Robert D, did that quake in Nev. get felt where you are?
Didn’t feel a thing. They say they felt it in Socal, But that’s a crock of, well, you know…
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